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1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:00,750 SoundOn
2 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,580 你知道我以前被英文老師取什麼
3 00:00:04,590 --> 00:00:05,680 名字？不知道
4 00:00:05,690 --> 00:00:09,210 那時候他看我一眼你就叫Jay
5 00:00:10,330 --> 00:00:13,010 JAY然後我就一直覺得自己
6 00:00:13,020 --> 00:00:14,510 沒有很喜歡這個名字
7 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,790 因為當年沒有一個明星叫做
8 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:17,820 周傑倫
9 00:00:17,830 --> 00:00:19,610 我就自己用電子字典查
10 00:00:19,620 --> 00:00:20,510 這是什麼意思
11 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,250 然後後來發現最的中文翻譯叫做
12 00:00:23,260 --> 00:00:27,140 愛說話的傻瓜
13 00:00:27,140 --> 00:00:29,760 科技創新
14 00:00:29,770 --> 00:00:30,360 娛樂
15 00:00:30,370 --> 00:00:34,620 各種新奇有趣都在寶博朋友說
16 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,670 你聽寶博朋友說了嗎
17 00:00:39,790 --> 00:00:40,590 hello
18 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,190 歡迎來到寶博朋友說我是葛如鈞
19 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:43,960 寶博士
20 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,750 2017年比特幣狂漲
21 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,510 全球刮起了一陣虛擬貨幣的浪潮
22 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,750 接連帶動了區塊鏈
23 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,690 虛擬貨幣等等的一些熱門話題
24 00:00:57,700 --> 00:01:01,880 在那個時候台灣在最好的時機
25 00:01:01,890 --> 00:01:05,220 出現了一個很特別也可以說是
26 00:01:05,230 --> 00:01:06,230 最好的之一
27 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,590 除了寶博朋友說以外
28 00:01:09,020 --> 00:01:15,240 你不要先笑的網絡媒體區塊勢
29 00:01:15,250 --> 00:01:15,840 趨勢的勢
30 00:01:15,850 --> 00:01:18,830 區塊勢是一個訂閱付費的
31 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,940 電子報非常特別的
32 00:01:20,950 --> 00:01:23,710 不只是訂閱付費的方法
33 00:01:23,900 --> 00:01:27,320 而且是他在一片網絡媒體當中殺
34 00:01:27,330 --> 00:01:29,800 出了一條康莊大道
35 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,810 區塊勢的標榜
36 00:01:31,820 --> 00:01:35,590 他是說人話的區塊鏈電子報
37 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,450 他並沒有特別討好投資客或者是
38 00:01:38,460 --> 00:01:39,210 專業族群
39 00:01:39,220 --> 00:01:43,370 而是用一般人都能聽懂的白話的
40 00:01:43,380 --> 00:01:47,650 話語來講述到現在還是很繞口
41 00:01:47,660 --> 00:01:50,070 很難念的區塊鏈三個字
42 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,110 單憑這一點就是一個非常特別
43 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,890 大膽嘗試的舉動
44 00:01:54,900 --> 00:01:56,750 讓我們歡迎區塊是的創辦人
45 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,030 大膽的許明恩
46 00:01:59,030 --> 00:02:00,420 hello大家好
47 00:02:00,430 --> 00:02:02,510 我是許明恩
48 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,240 他在旁邊忍耐很久
49 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,590 許明恩大家都叫你什麼叫你明恩
50 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:10,030 嗎
51 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:16,150 許博士沒有博士碩士明恩
52 00:02:16,220 --> 00:02:16,330 對
53 00:02:16,340 --> 00:02:17,120 沒有外號
54 00:02:17,130 --> 00:02:18,080 英文名字
55 00:02:18,090 --> 00:02:20,260 我英文名字叫 Astro
56 00:02:20,270 --> 00:02:21,480 A s t r o
57 00:02:21,490 --> 00:02:24,200 但是大家會問說到底這名字怎麼
58 00:02:24,210 --> 00:02:24,680 來的
59 00:02:24,690 --> 00:02:26,780 對怎麼來講就覺得很好奇
60 00:02:26,790 --> 00:02:29,030 我其實是在研究所的時候
61 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,260 然後我很早以前叫這美語補習班
62 00:02:33,620 --> 00:02:35,590 幫我叫 Hank 都這樣
63 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,110 老師都亂取
64 00:02:37,700 --> 00:02:40,210 就感覺好像隨便分發這樣子
65 00:02:40,220 --> 00:02:42,390 然後你就叫漢娜重新之後
66 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:43,670 你就較難自己這樣子
67 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:44,010 對
68 00:02:44,020 --> 00:02:47,110 然後我就突然想到不行
69 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,810 怎麼可能英文名字就被一個美女
70 00:02:49,820 --> 00:02:51,130 老師就這樣決定了
71 00:02:51,140 --> 00:02:53,100 然後我就決定要重新換個名字
72 00:02:53,110 --> 00:02:54,830 改頭換面這樣就自己找
73 00:02:54,830 --> 00:02:55,870 首先我有幾個條件
74 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,580 第1個條件是我想要字母前面
75 00:02:58,590 --> 00:02:58,890 一點
76 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,860 有排序的時候打電動
77 00:03:01,870 --> 00:03:03,260 然後打贏我也不知道
78 00:03:03,270 --> 00:03:04,450 反正就對
79 00:03:04,460 --> 00:03:07,470 然後就想要AA抬頭最好
80 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,350 後來我就想做A開頭什麼
81 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,610 然後那時候正好看到一篇新聞
82 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,060 就是說Google個實驗室叫
83 00:03:15,070 --> 00:03:16,300 Google X然後
84 00:03:16,310 --> 00:03:17,730 Google X他們有一個
85 00:03:17,740 --> 00:03:19,660 那時候正好Google X
86 00:03:19,670 --> 00:03:20,300 狠心
87 00:03:20,310 --> 00:03:21,380 你是幾歲
88 00:03:21,390 --> 00:03:24,260 你在Google X的時候才
89 00:03:24,270 --> 00:03:25,440 取英文名字
90 00:03:25,450 --> 00:03:25,980 對
91 00:03:25,990 --> 00:03:28,720 反正就很後面才開始改英文名字
92 00:03:28,730 --> 00:03:29,460 這樣子
93 00:03:29,470 --> 00:03:33,520 然後那時候看到他們在做一些很
94 00:03:33,530 --> 00:03:34,400 比較酷的part
95 00:03:34,410 --> 00:03:36,790 都是在做射月計劃的東西
96 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:37,170 對不對
97 00:03:37,180 --> 00:03:40,500 就看到他們有一個有點像TMD
98 00:03:40,510 --> 00:03:40,810 的人
99 00:03:40,820 --> 00:03:44,410 他名字叫 Astro
100 00:03:44,420 --> 00:03:44,840 Teller
101 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,600 然後那時候看到這個名字怎樣
102 00:03:48,610 --> 00:03:50,690 這是什麼很夢幻的名字
103 00:03:50,700 --> 00:03:51,330 就是什麼
104 00:03:51,340 --> 00:03:54,260 對星辰訴說者的樣子
105 00:03:54,270 --> 00:03:55,550 然後航海王的感覺
106 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:55,720 對
107 00:03:55,730 --> 00:03:58,900 然後我就覺得天哪好好假掰我愛
108 00:03:58,910 --> 00:03:59,460 這樣子
109 00:03:59,470 --> 00:04:01,460 然後所以我就想說好那us
110 00:04:01,470 --> 00:04:03,690 然後我就在想說阿sir跟我
111 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:04,530 本人有什麼關係
112 00:04:04,540 --> 00:04:06,450 因為我不想要被別人覺得我這麼
113 00:04:06,460 --> 00:04:08,630 的就是出錢膚淺
114 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,090 呵呵
115 00:04:10,100 --> 00:04:10,750 對
116 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,450 然後所以就想說OK
117 00:04:12,460 --> 00:04:14,940 我後來找到一點觀點
118 00:04:14,950 --> 00:04:16,370 我是許明恩
119 00:04:16,380 --> 00:04:19,230 然後明中間是日跟月
120 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,170 然後他跟阿sir有點關係
121 00:04:22,180 --> 00:04:24,660 然後我就說OK那之後有人說
122 00:04:24,670 --> 00:04:26,790 為什麼我就說兩個理由
123 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,020 一個是我覺得Google X
124 00:04:29,030 --> 00:04:30,730 在做的東西蠻有趣的
125 00:04:30,740 --> 00:04:33,700 然後我會蠻有興趣這種新的科技
126 00:04:33,710 --> 00:04:35,610 然後另外一部分是他跟我的中文
127 00:04:35,620 --> 00:04:36,380 名字有關係
128 00:04:36,390 --> 00:04:38,450 但絕口不提你是要A開頭
129 00:04:38,460 --> 00:04:39,990 對
130 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,190 所以我看到你前陣子去美國壯游
131 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,720 是不是沒有是接下來我誤會了
132 00:04:47,730 --> 00:04:48,820 出發去多久
133 00:04:48,830 --> 00:04:50,470 我要去10天而已
134 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,750 所以你準備帶著這個名字去對我
135 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,220 還沒想到我可能去那邊
136 00:04:56,230 --> 00:04:56,710 我要說
137 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,030 是我跟你講名字
138 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,440 這件事真的很痛苦
139 00:05:00,450 --> 00:05:02,270 觀眾朋友到這邊可能會有點不耐
140 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:04,930 就覺得不是講好結合兩區塊鏈嗎
141 00:05:05,140 --> 00:05:07,830 但寶博日節目都比較奇怪
142 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:09,870 就是會帶他暖剩下嗎
143 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,050 他聊點別的
144 00:05:11,060 --> 00:05:12,700 這樣應該也蠻有趣的
145 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:14,750 如果你真的很想搞I廳局觀聽
146 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,490 不懂的東西
147 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:17,150 趕快轉一下也是沒有關係
148 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,790 你知道我以前背英文老師取什麼
149 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:20,960 名字我不知道
150 00:05:20,970 --> 00:05:22,960 那時候他看我一眼
151 00:05:23,430 --> 00:05:24,420 你就叫Jay
152 00:05:25,260 --> 00:05:28,830 然後是jack JAY
153 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:30,860 然後那個時候就覺得 OK可以
154 00:05:30,870 --> 00:05:32,770 然後我就一直覺得自己沒有很
155 00:05:32,780 --> 00:05:33,930 喜歡這個名字
156 00:05:33,940 --> 00:05:36,250 因為當年沒有一個明星叫做
157 00:05:36,260 --> 00:05:37,230 周傑倫
158 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,430 然後我就覺得我就自己用電影
159 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,100 字典查
160 00:05:40,110 --> 00:05:41,150 這是什麼意思
161 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,230 然後後來發現這裡的中文翻譯
162 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,000 叫做愛說話的傻瓜
163 00:05:46,530 --> 00:05:49,450 然後我又決心拋棄這個名字
164 00:05:49,460 --> 00:05:50,750 你知道嗎
165 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,810 然後直到後來周結緣就變紅了
166 00:05:53,980 --> 00:05:55,850 我想再撿回來有點來不及
167 00:05:55,860 --> 00:05:57,540 而且你就算剪還跟人家說
168 00:05:57,550 --> 00:05:59,710 這人家還以為你是周傑倫粉絲
169 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:00,310 對
170 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,380 所以我以前在節目裡面我就講過
171 00:06:03,390 --> 00:06:06,220 就是我的英文名字的一個困擾了
172 00:06:06,230 --> 00:06:07,670 然後我到奇點大學的時候
173 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,510 我一開始說我要叫JC然後就
174 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:11,220 一直被笑
175 00:06:11,230 --> 00:06:12,830 我就說what
176 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:13,390 JZ!
177 00:06:13,940 --> 00:06:16,670 然後有一些西班牙的或者是
178 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:17,430 葡萄牙來
179 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,710 他們就說 Jesus Chris!
180 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:22,150 然後最後你知道超苦惱的
181 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,690 後來就決定不管她們
182 00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:24,450 我就說這意思
183 00:06:24,460 --> 00:06:27,530 因為我是如君我的如是JU然後
184 00:06:27,540 --> 00:06:29,330 軍械趣聞錐形
185 00:06:29,340 --> 00:06:30,540 所以總是聽眾朋友
186 00:06:30,550 --> 00:06:31,270 大家可以知道
187 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:33,410 我們就已經都我不知道三十幾
188 00:06:33,420 --> 00:06:34,490 你是幾年次的
189 00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:37,560 我是1990197979
190 00:06:37,570 --> 00:06:37,910 好
191 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,150 你是9090的話
192 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:40,910 現在是幾歲
193 00:06:40,910 --> 00:06:42,150 29
194 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:42,630 29
195 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:43,310 29
196 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,060 我今年應該快40
197 00:06:45,070 --> 00:06:47,060 所以你看一個29歲的人
198 00:06:47,070 --> 00:06:48,230 一個快40的人
199 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,720 然後這邊有一隻眼英文名
200 00:06:49,780 --> 00:06:50,620 叫什麼
201 00:06:50,630 --> 00:06:51,120 改名
202 00:06:51,130 --> 00:06:51,700 對
203 00:06:51,710 --> 00:06:54,710 所以如果聽眾朋友未來有遠大的
204 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,280 志向
205 00:06:55,290 --> 00:06:57,140 想要向全球化市場發展的話
206 00:06:57,150 --> 00:06:59,880 鼓勵大家可以早一點思考自己的
207 00:06:59,890 --> 00:07:00,570 英文名字
208 00:07:00,580 --> 00:07:01,140 好不好
209 00:07:01,140 --> 00:07:05,150 然後故事編漂亮一點的對S首日
210 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:05,660 樂不錯
211 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:06,460 我覺得可以
212 00:07:06,470 --> 00:07:09,500 我們還是要來稍微讓大家更多
213 00:07:09,510 --> 00:07:13,940 一點瞭解許明恩我們的計劃跟
214 00:07:13,950 --> 00:07:17,680 剪接師明爭名字跟你差一個字
215 00:07:17,690 --> 00:07:18,830 給我們一個主題
216 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:19,410 這很妙
217 00:07:19,420 --> 00:07:20,410 叫做結構
218 00:07:20,420 --> 00:07:21,550 李工腦
219 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,550 看透了她的心
220 00:07:25,070 --> 00:07:26,670 講出來了
221 00:07:28,310 --> 00:07:30,190 狄斯洛校長對不起來賓
222 00:07:31,250 --> 00:07:32,320 看透了他的心
223 00:07:32,330 --> 00:07:34,500 還有文學逗留的背影
224 00:07:34,670 --> 00:07:36,310 這是什麼
225 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,050 好I立委可能你是有一點理工跟
226 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:41,250 文學混雜
227 00:07:41,260 --> 00:07:42,410 因為你很會寫文章
228 00:07:42,420 --> 00:07:44,370 聲音又很有磁性
229 00:07:44,380 --> 00:07:47,120 然後又怕X可能我們待會聊聊
230 00:07:47,130 --> 00:07:48,750 先講一下你的背景
231 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,960 所以他這邊幫你整理了三大重點
232 00:07:51,970 --> 00:07:53,110 他自己沒看過
233 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,610 所以我們今天有錄音
234 00:07:54,620 --> 00:07:56,690 所以大家可以到UT5上面看許
235 00:07:56,700 --> 00:07:57,990 明恩害羞的表情
236 00:07:58,490 --> 00:08:02,530 他說你是台灣大學電子工程
237 00:08:02,540 --> 00:08:04,620 研究所碩士畢業
238 00:08:04,630 --> 00:08:05,320 對不對
239 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,540 台大幫你是建台台是不是
240 00:08:08,550 --> 00:08:10,000 我是太男人太聽得懂
241 00:08:10,010 --> 00:08:10,740 對不對
242 00:08:10,980 --> 00:08:13,360 有關好聽朋友如果不知道什麼是
243 00:08:13,370 --> 00:08:14,240 劍台的話
244 00:08:14,250 --> 00:08:15,220 在這邊告訴一下大家
245 00:08:15,230 --> 00:08:18,200 有一種特別天資聰穎的人
246 00:08:18,210 --> 00:08:20,660 他就是可以從出生然後念書
247 00:08:20,670 --> 00:08:22,740 對他來講就像遊戲一般
248 00:08:22,750 --> 00:08:25,860 所以他就是建中台大
249 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,680 如果你是博士班的話
250 00:08:27,690 --> 00:08:29,050 就見抬拉
251 00:08:29,060 --> 00:08:32,330 如果再加博士後就建台台
252 00:08:32,340 --> 00:08:35,350 所以你我是譚二中
253 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,220 台南二中你們這樣有一種說法嗎
254 00:08:38,230 --> 00:08:39,910 男二台
255 00:08:41,140 --> 00:08:43,420 你是一畢業就創辦區塊是嗎
256 00:08:43,430 --> 00:08:43,640 不是
257 00:08:43,650 --> 00:08:46,300 畢業之後先去當研發替代E在
258 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:47,240 什麼樣的公司
259 00:08:47,250 --> 00:08:49,020 在這內湖的科技公司
260 00:08:49,030 --> 00:08:52,340 然後做物聯網做物聯網IOTO
261 00:08:52,350 --> 00:08:56,440 K然後做完退伍之後做完
262 00:08:56,450 --> 00:08:57,700 其實中間做到一半
263 00:08:57,710 --> 00:08:59,350 然後因為家庭因素
264 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,290 然後就發現申請去台北市政府的
265 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:04,310 圖書館
266 00:09:04,470 --> 00:09:05,540 no way
267 00:09:05,550 --> 00:09:09,080 所以文學逗留背影是從這裡來的
268 00:09:09,090 --> 00:09:09,450 嗎
269 00:09:09,460 --> 00:09:10,440 是從圖書館來
270 00:09:10,450 --> 00:09:12,380 然後覺得圖書館很無聊
271 00:09:12,390 --> 00:09:15,640 因為那時候他其實是一天大概
272 00:09:15,650 --> 00:09:17,900 只有頂多兩個人進去的一個
273 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:18,490 圖書館
274 00:09:18,500 --> 00:09:19,530 哪裡的圖書館
275 00:09:19,540 --> 00:09:23,660 對他在台北市公務人員訓練中心
276 00:09:23,670 --> 00:09:26,300 他有點象是我知道那裡辛亥路嗎
277 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:26,930 對
278 00:09:26,940 --> 00:09:27,860 我以前住那附近
279 00:09:27,870 --> 00:09:32,460 在萬方社區捷運站再上去
280 00:09:32,470 --> 00:09:33,250 他那不是那裡
281 00:09:33,260 --> 00:09:33,920 對
282 00:09:33,930 --> 00:09:36,010 但是其實就是往那邊上去了
283 00:09:36,020 --> 00:09:36,350 對
284 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,240 然後所以就在那邊排書其實也沒
285 00:09:40,250 --> 00:09:40,760 乾嘛
286 00:09:40,770 --> 00:09:43,090 你看你是全職在那邊
287 00:09:43,100 --> 00:09:44,200 你那時候已經退伍
288 00:09:44,210 --> 00:09:46,480 那時候在當一般T大姨
289 00:09:46,670 --> 00:09:47,300 對
290 00:09:47,310 --> 00:09:50,020 研發替代役不是就T帶一碗
291 00:09:50,030 --> 00:09:52,170 然後所有的研發替代我當了一半
292 00:09:52,180 --> 00:09:55,310 然後你就老跑
293 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,510 然後就轉到一般我懂我知道我有
294 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:00,910 聽說過這種例子
295 00:10:01,140 --> 00:10:03,150 這種例子只能轉一次
296 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,960 你如果再下一次不滿意
297 00:10:05,970 --> 00:10:08,390 就只好再回去成功零對不對
298 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,910 我記得好像總之你會蠻慘的
299 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,570 如果你沒有轉彎
300 00:10:12,580 --> 00:10:14,110 然後很順利的退伍的話
301 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,010 聽說了中間是先轉了
302 00:10:16,020 --> 00:10:17,670 反正我當兵很奇怪
303 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:19,150 反正先研發替代
304 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,390 然後後面去當了兩個三個禮拜的
305 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,010 警察
306 00:10:23,020 --> 00:10:26,960 一我是淡水取締違規停車
307 00:10:26,970 --> 00:10:31,110 你是我聽過軍旅生涯最奇特的
308 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:31,740 你知道嗎
309 00:10:31,750 --> 00:10:32,850 我已經夠奇特
310 00:10:32,860 --> 00:10:36,310 我在環保局檢舉煙蒂這樣子
311 00:10:36,310 --> 00:10:36,690 好
312 00:10:36,700 --> 00:10:40,020 然後後來其實警察一事
313 00:10:40,030 --> 00:10:43,540 因為凡所有研發替代E要轉其他
314 00:10:43,550 --> 00:10:44,120 的兵役
315 00:10:44,130 --> 00:10:48,070 統統都要經過警察或消防2選1
316 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:48,400 這樣
317 00:10:48,410 --> 00:10:51,430 然後再幫你轉到這麼痛苦
318 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,910 是哪一間內湖和公司的這麼不
319 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:54,720 開心
320 00:10:54,730 --> 00:10:56,990 沒有還好
321 00:10:57,180 --> 00:10:58,390 是不是有人欺負你
322 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,010 我們不要說是哪一家公司
323 00:11:00,020 --> 00:11:02,570 但是呆著不習慣
324 00:11:02,580 --> 00:11:04,960 就覺得可以換了這樣子
325 00:11:05,020 --> 00:11:05,360 好
326 00:11:05,370 --> 00:11:08,070 我們等下收機器以後再問
327 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:08,780 剪掉剪掉
328 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,670 這個真的一定是你進去的時候跟
329 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:15,030 人家說你是台大的被升職的
330 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,140 我跟你講不能讓人家知道
331 00:11:17,150 --> 00:11:17,810 我跟你講
332 00:11:17,820 --> 00:11:19,650 你知道我去當兵的時候
333 00:11:19,660 --> 00:11:21,910 我真的很感謝有一個我已經忘記
334 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,470 是誰的人警告我說你千萬不要跟
335 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,130 別人說你是博士畢業
336 00:11:26,140 --> 00:11:29,040 你只要說你小學畢業就真的在
337 00:11:29,050 --> 00:11:30,060 成功里的時候
338 00:11:30,070 --> 00:11:34,060 有一次人家會問說小學畢業舉手
339 00:11:34,070 --> 00:11:35,040 剛剛畢業舉手
340 00:11:35,050 --> 00:11:35,820 大學畢業的舉手
341 00:11:35,830 --> 00:11:37,440 然後到最後問到博士
342 00:11:37,450 --> 00:11:38,560 還真的有人舉手
343 00:11:38,570 --> 00:11:40,100 就表示那個人博士畢業嗎
344 00:11:40,110 --> 00:11:40,710 我跟你講
345 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,460 他那幾個月生不如死
346 00:11:42,470 --> 00:11:46,010 他就一直笑他I博士來打菜這種
347 00:11:46,020 --> 00:11:46,540 你知道嗎
348 00:11:46,550 --> 00:11:47,800 還好我就是小學畢業
349 00:11:47,810 --> 00:11:49,420 然後國中畢業我就放下了
350 00:11:49,870 --> 00:11:52,070 我後來去T大一的時候也是我一
351 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,230 開始就非常低調
352 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,280 我完全沒有讓人家知道我的背景
353 00:11:55,290 --> 00:11:55,890 會什麼
354 00:11:56,090 --> 00:11:58,110 但有一天不知道是誰去調查
355 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,520 然後走漏出來就是我博士畢業
356 00:12:00,530 --> 00:12:02,390 我那時候變得非常的痛苦
357 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:04,280 真的我理解你的感受
358 00:12:04,290 --> 00:12:05,520 我看到你嘆一口氣了
359 00:12:05,530 --> 00:12:08,860 所以不過現在台灣的兵役稍微
360 00:12:08,870 --> 00:12:10,130 比較時間短了
361 00:12:10,140 --> 00:12:14,200 然後而且嘔吐NTV真替Q也
362 00:12:14,210 --> 00:12:14,680 很多
363 00:12:14,690 --> 00:12:17,010 所以已經不是太大的問題
364 00:12:17,020 --> 00:12:18,320 我們就不用太多聊
365 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,350 所以就講到你去圖書館
366 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,000 然後就當到17結束
367 00:12:24,010 --> 00:12:26,430 然後那段時間你一邊在看書
368 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,430 然後有時候會不小心翻到區塊鏈
369 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,640 輸這麼偏僻的圖書館
370 00:12:30,650 --> 00:12:31,290 我有去看
371 00:12:31,300 --> 00:12:32,130 說你騙誰
372 00:12:32,140 --> 00:12:33,730 我沒有去看書
373 00:12:33,930 --> 00:12:36,570 覺得那時候其實就一部分是
374 00:12:36,580 --> 00:12:38,770 莫名其妙接到狗狗肉的電話
375 00:12:38,780 --> 00:12:40,990 他就說要不要這邊做電池這樣子
376 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,450 然後那時候就對那時候覺得好像
377 00:12:43,460 --> 00:12:43,770 不錯
378 00:12:43,780 --> 00:12:45,750 現在Google市佔率5破申
379 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,200 部分車累
380 00:12:47,210 --> 00:12:48,780 就覺得應該是要這麼做
381 00:12:48,790 --> 00:12:50,840 然後但是另外一部分就是我一個
382 00:12:50,850 --> 00:12:51,950 研究所的損友
383 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,430 然後來我家放礦機
384 00:12:53,670 --> 00:12:55,240 你書到底讀了沒
385 00:12:55,250 --> 00:12:56,260 你已經還沒修完
386 00:12:56,270 --> 00:12:57,710 還沒讀書
387 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,780 就被強勢放入樂觀的時候幣價在
388 00:13:00,790 --> 00:13:01,120 漲
389 00:13:01,130 --> 00:13:04,360 然後那朋友他大概多少錢的時候
390 00:13:04,370 --> 00:13:08,540 是217年17年8月的錯
391 00:13:08,550 --> 00:13:10,300 完全是四五百塊這樣
392 00:13:10,310 --> 00:13:12,950 而且還繼續往上
393 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,560 然後所以他就說因為他已經在某
394 00:13:16,570 --> 00:13:17,960 學校的研究室放滿了
395 00:13:17,970 --> 00:13:20,640 然後他說你家有用不完的電費幾
396 00:13:20,650 --> 00:13:21,080 句
397 00:13:21,250 --> 00:13:22,900 結果放一下你那邊這樣子
398 00:13:23,140 --> 00:13:24,390 他還幫你算
399 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,270 他說你因為他知道我之前有找他
400 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:28,810 來我家
401 00:13:28,820 --> 00:13:30,650 然後我就跟他說我家電費好便宜
402 00:13:30,660 --> 00:13:32,250 我為什麼什麼叫電費
403 00:13:32,260 --> 00:13:33,530 你是自己租房子嗎
404 00:13:33,540 --> 00:13:36,310 但是我那邊因為替代E為什麼
405 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,410 可以自己租房子
406 00:13:37,420 --> 00:13:38,930 你是不是用了什麼怪招
407 00:13:38,940 --> 00:13:40,910 就是住社會住宅
408 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:41,770 是嗎
409 00:13:41,770 --> 00:13:43,110 你那時候注射會助長
410 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,400 現在還是住社會住宅
411 00:13:44,410 --> 00:13:49,060 然後台北市反正是掙得正當得正
412 00:13:49,070 --> 00:13:51,830 對有社會住宅新的
413 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,200 然後所以我就一個人住
414 00:13:53,210 --> 00:13:54,730 你現在是科粉
415 00:13:54,740 --> 00:13:56,450 or還是我想還好我們不要講
416 00:13:56,460 --> 00:13:56,850 政治
417 00:13:56,860 --> 00:13:57,240 對
418 00:13:57,250 --> 00:13:58,770 我覺得這個政策不錯
419 00:13:58,780 --> 00:14:00,310 你住在社會住宅
420 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,900 任何政治人物都歡迎繼續社會
421 00:14:02,910 --> 00:14:03,840 住宅的政策
422 00:14:03,850 --> 00:14:04,110 對不對
423 00:14:04,110 --> 00:14:06,530 他真的有一個額度就對
424 00:14:06,540 --> 00:14:09,350 其實所有人的家裡的電費其實
425 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,520 都是從一點多快136塊之類的
426 00:14:12,530 --> 00:14:14,970 還是163塊一度電開始起跳
427 00:14:14,980 --> 00:14:17,510 然後錢240度就是這個一點多
428 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:18,260 塊的電費
429 00:14:18,270 --> 00:14:20,230 所以大家不要覺得他們很邪惡
430 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,230 因為可能明恩一直都不在家
431 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,130 或是在家用電量非常少
432 00:14:24,140 --> 00:14:26,300 所以放了一個礦機也還OK也
433 00:14:26,310 --> 00:14:29,430 不過就幾張行卡的第12章章
434 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,230 然後我要幫你講話
435 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,400 你還自己對不對
436 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,820 不知道大家在底下留言
437 00:14:35,830 --> 00:14:38,760 社會住宅我自己付的錢
438 00:14:38,770 --> 00:14:40,580 對就是電費
439 00:14:40,770 --> 00:14:42,370 只是放那兩個月
440 00:14:42,380 --> 00:14:45,770 我家的電費就從兩個月大概五六
441 00:14:45,780 --> 00:14:46,570 百塊
442 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,900 變成下兩個月的5000多塊
443 00:14:49,910 --> 00:14:51,990 no way你不是被他騙了
444 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,980 所以我就跟他說電費那麼貴
445 00:14:54,990 --> 00:14:57,660 就是負一點以太幣來挖到了分我
446 00:14:57,670 --> 00:14:58,450 一點這樣子
447 00:14:58,460 --> 00:15:01,240 那時候你應該還OK
448 00:15:01,250 --> 00:15:01,540 對
449 00:15:01,550 --> 00:15:04,410 那時候比較流行大家自己挖礦這
450 00:15:04,420 --> 00:15:04,700 樣子
451 00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:06,720 但是那時候其實我對比特幣跟以
452 00:15:06,730 --> 00:15:07,680 太幣沒有那麼熟
453 00:15:07,690 --> 00:15:10,280 所以你的第1筆太B是從朋友分
454 00:15:10,290 --> 00:15:11,310 他到底有沒有芬尼
455 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,030 因為那時候我還不會開錢包
456 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,420 然後反正我就說你煩你幫我弄好
457 00:15:15,430 --> 00:15:17,300 然後告訴我我怎麼拿到那個錢
458 00:15:17,310 --> 00:15:18,700 然後我怎麼換成現金
459 00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:18,900 這樣
460 00:15:18,910 --> 00:15:20,680 後來然後他就幫我開號
461 00:15:20,690 --> 00:15:23,740 因為他其實也是出境到某個礦池
462 00:15:23,750 --> 00:15:24,280 裡面去
463 00:15:24,290 --> 00:15:25,100 對
464 00:15:25,100 --> 00:15:27,720 現在就是到在我錢包裡面是你的
465 00:15:27,730 --> 00:15:30,770 初體驗是被強制植入的
466 00:15:30,780 --> 00:15:31,490 對
467 00:15:31,500 --> 00:15:34,440 我說不要放我家
468 00:15:34,450 --> 00:15:36,130 她說我已經在你家樓下了
469 00:15:36,140 --> 00:15:39,180 然後什麼樣的朋友這麼有趣
470 00:15:39,190 --> 00:15:41,510 我們還沒找他還上街
471 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,370 他現在還在第鏈圈嗎
472 00:15:43,380 --> 00:15:46,230 他現在玩電機所跑去讀醫學系去
473 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,170 真的假真的很有趣
474 00:15:48,180 --> 00:15:50,030 莫名其妙的人你可以找他
475 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,360 你覺得我們邀她
476 00:15:51,370 --> 00:15:53,260 她有點宅那很好
477 00:15:53,270 --> 00:15:54,190 我也很窄
478 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,660 因為你說叫他去洗過澡再過來
479 00:15:56,660 --> 00:15:57,140 好
480 00:15:57,150 --> 00:16:00,050 所以等於就是說那個時候開始
481 00:16:00,060 --> 00:16:01,000 感到好奇
482 00:16:01,010 --> 00:16:01,660 對
483 00:16:01,670 --> 00:16:04,740 然後那時候就開始想說天一一台
484 00:16:04,750 --> 00:16:05,730 機器放在我家
485 00:16:05,740 --> 00:16:07,540 然後但是我不太知道他到底怎麼
486 00:16:07,550 --> 00:16:07,920 運作
487 00:16:07,930 --> 00:16:09,710 反正他就說會一台B出來
488 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,540 然後還會賺錢
489 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:11,460 他會發大財
490 00:16:11,470 --> 00:16:11,650 張
491 00:16:11,660 --> 00:16:13,440 然後我就說怎麼回事
492 00:16:13,450 --> 00:16:14,550 聽起來像印鈔機一樣
493 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:15,160 我就自己去看
494 00:16:15,170 --> 00:16:16,770 然後看了之後就有點看不懂
495 00:16:16,780 --> 00:16:18,220 一定看不懂的
496 00:16:18,230 --> 00:16:20,170 網絡都亂翻
497 00:16:20,180 --> 00:16:22,790 以太坊以太幣全部亂七亂七八糟
498 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:23,840 翻在一起
499 00:16:23,850 --> 00:16:27,350 然後所以我就想說天太大打擊了
500 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,130 我讀了4年電機系加三年的
501 00:16:29,140 --> 00:16:29,610 電子鎖
502 00:16:29,620 --> 00:16:30,710 然後結果我看不懂
503 00:16:30,710 --> 00:16:33,160 這種技術的東西
504 00:16:33,170 --> 00:16:35,620 然後就想說我要研究一下
505 00:16:35,630 --> 00:16:35,890 對
506 00:16:35,900 --> 00:16:37,430 所以聽眾朋友如果聽到這裡
507 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,640 你覺得我們兩個談得很興奮
508 00:16:39,650 --> 00:16:40,590 然後聽你聽不懂
509 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:41,590 那有什麼是礦機
510 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,970 有什麼叫做插進去電費變
511 00:16:43,980 --> 00:16:45,520 5000塊沒有關係
512 00:16:45,530 --> 00:16:47,350 因為我們你慢慢就會知道
513 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,020 因為你看一個台大電子鎖
514 00:16:49,030 --> 00:16:51,830 別的人真的差了兩個月
515 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,130 然後不知道自己在幹嗎
516 00:16:53,140 --> 00:16:54,380 然後電費還變很貴
517 00:16:54,390 --> 00:16:56,340 你當時也不知道什麼是礦機嗎
518 00:16:56,350 --> 00:16:57,330 我不知道我知道
519 00:16:57,340 --> 00:16:57,950 對
520 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,310 然後所以其實我後來有比較好
521 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:01,540 一點
522 00:17:01,550 --> 00:17:03,530 因為那是2017年的時候
523 00:17:03,540 --> 00:17:06,870 後來最近才發現說把所有事情連
524 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,000 起來
525 00:17:07,010 --> 00:17:08,890 就是2015年我研究所畢業的
526 00:17:08,900 --> 00:17:09,500 時候
527 00:17:09,510 --> 00:17:11,170 就一台方才剛出來
528 00:17:11,410 --> 00:17:11,700 對吧
529 00:17:11,710 --> 00:17:13,960 然後過兩年沒有發現
530 00:17:13,970 --> 00:17:15,060 其實也算蠻正常的
531 00:17:15,070 --> 00:17:16,360 就是這種新的東西
532 00:17:16,370 --> 00:17:18,610 然後過兩年之後他才出現
533 00:17:18,620 --> 00:17:21,960 所以我就覺得現在所有人在聽
534 00:17:21,970 --> 00:17:22,220 不懂
535 00:17:22,230 --> 00:17:23,960 一台比一台放棄還蠻正常的
536 00:17:23,970 --> 00:17:26,230 就是算到現在其實也才4年左右
537 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,840 礦機的故事你自己在節目里有講
538 00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:29,730 過嗎
539 00:17:29,730 --> 00:17:31,380 我也很常收你的信
540 00:17:31,390 --> 00:17:32,620 我說我沒印象
541 00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:35,880 我皆自我介紹的時候有稍微說過
542 00:17:35,890 --> 00:17:36,580 之前偶爾
543 00:17:36,590 --> 00:17:37,440 但是可能很短
544 00:17:37,450 --> 00:17:38,820 沒有被逼問得那麼多了
545 00:17:38,830 --> 00:17:40,830 我們不你那時候可能沒講電費從
546 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,650 500變5000
547 00:17:41,660 --> 00:17:46,080 那我能不能因為區塊是一直很
548 00:17:46,090 --> 00:17:49,080 自詡為說白話的去賣媒體
549 00:17:49,230 --> 00:17:50,770 能不能跟寶博朋友說的
550 00:17:50,780 --> 00:17:52,900 千萬聽眾也不知道哪裡來
551 00:17:52,910 --> 00:17:53,470 請問
552 00:17:54,020 --> 00:17:57,810 用白話說明一下什麼是礦機
553 00:17:57,820 --> 00:17:58,580 OK
554 00:17:58,590 --> 00:18:00,990 我覺得它很像是印鈔機
555 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,430 所以一般人來說
556 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,120 你把電腦放在那邊
557 00:18:04,130 --> 00:18:05,560 然後他就會印東西出來
558 00:18:05,570 --> 00:18:07,410 只是你會說那錢到底從哪裡來的
559 00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:08,650 為什麼你電腦放在那邊
560 00:18:08,660 --> 00:18:10,620 他就會他前就一直跳出來
561 00:18:10,630 --> 00:18:12,640 我就會說那挖礦既然是礦機
562 00:18:12,650 --> 00:18:15,180 就有點像是鼓譟時候那種黃金礦
563 00:18:15,190 --> 00:18:15,660 坑
564 00:18:15,730 --> 00:18:18,200 裡面的礦工你付出勞力
565 00:18:18,210 --> 00:18:20,490 你就可以獲得黃金來作為回報
566 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,620 現在21世紀大家都是沒有在用
567 00:18:23,630 --> 00:18:24,140 勞力
568 00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:25,090 而是用電腦
569 00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:28,200 所以我們奴役這些電腦去幫我們
570 00:18:28,210 --> 00:18:28,800 挖礦
571 00:18:28,810 --> 00:18:31,780 然後拿到比特幣或一台幣
572 00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:34,470 然後所以大家會說這是數位的
573 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,170 黃金嗎
574 00:18:35,180 --> 00:18:35,750 比如說比特
575 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,570 比如說所謂的黃金結盟程度是
576 00:18:37,580 --> 00:18:37,840 這樣
577 00:18:38,060 --> 00:18:41,940 這台被奴役的電腦有做任何實有
578 00:18:41,950 --> 00:18:43,620 實質意義的工作
579 00:18:43,630 --> 00:18:45,410 因為其實我現在出去演講
580 00:18:45,420 --> 00:18:47,260 我都會把它放一張照片
581 00:18:47,270 --> 00:18:49,100 我那時候拋了一張真的有照片
582 00:18:49,110 --> 00:18:53,480 有他就是在我的陽台的洗衣機的
583 00:18:53,490 --> 00:18:54,150 旁邊
584 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,190 這樣實際上日曬雨淋可以嗎
585 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,400 會稍微簡單週一下
586 00:18:58,410 --> 00:18:59,190 對
587 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,180 但是無所謂的
588 00:19:00,190 --> 00:19:00,600 為什麼
589 00:19:00,610 --> 00:19:03,300 因為放到家裡會很熱
590 00:19:03,310 --> 00:19:05,220 然後又很吵風扇
591 00:19:05,230 --> 00:19:09,300 12張顯卡同步全速運轉吵死
592 00:19:09,310 --> 00:19:11,770 所以那時候想說冬天我可以把它
593 00:19:11,780 --> 00:19:12,080 拿進來
594 00:19:12,090 --> 00:19:14,160 但是那時候七八月冬天拿出來
595 00:19:14,170 --> 00:19:14,830 取暖
596 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,850 對你真的要拿進來
597 00:19:16,860 --> 00:19:17,330 對
598 00:19:17,340 --> 00:19:19,100 然後而且那時候我朋友跟我說
599 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,460 你不要擔心電費
600 00:19:21,470 --> 00:19:23,100 你現在四五千塊
601 00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:25,710 明年我沒放電費的
602 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,930 節電獎勵你可以領很多
603 00:19:27,940 --> 00:19:28,300 我靠
604 00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:29,300 他也太屌了
605 00:19:29,310 --> 00:19:31,720 好好可以
606 00:19:31,730 --> 00:19:34,440 這個人真的是社會害課
607 00:19:34,450 --> 00:19:36,080 真的太扯了
608 00:19:36,090 --> 00:19:37,320 所以大概是這樣
609 00:19:37,330 --> 00:19:39,290 然後我就開始研究區塊鏈到底
610 00:19:39,300 --> 00:19:39,970 什麼東西
611 00:19:39,970 --> 00:19:43,630 我是先從比特幣的論文開始看起
612 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,120 因為研究所的專業看盾文章
613 00:19:47,130 --> 00:19:49,130 然後快速的看完論文
614 00:19:49,140 --> 00:19:50,990 看到F然後看看QQ炫
615 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,110 然後中間不看的
616 00:19:52,690 --> 00:19:53,720 我是看說圖
617 00:19:53,730 --> 00:19:58,400 然後所以我就很快把中本從9頁
618 00:19:58,410 --> 00:19:59,480 的論文看完這樣
619 00:19:59,690 --> 00:20:03,330 我以前在家裡讀大學的時候就
620 00:20:03,340 --> 00:20:04,300 已經很喜歡
621 00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:06,330 只要回家我家在台南
622 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,100 然後回家我就跟我爸媽說
623 00:20:08,110 --> 00:20:10,760 我在學校學到電機系學到什麼
624 00:20:10,770 --> 00:20:11,310 東西
625 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,380 但是我跟他們講工程數學他們
626 00:20:13,390 --> 00:20:13,800 不懂
627 00:20:13,810 --> 00:20:17,040 然後所以要想辦法跟他們解釋
628 00:20:17,050 --> 00:20:17,290 一下
629 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:19,150 就是說現在科技發展的進展
630 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,540 那麼所以從大學開始
631 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,110 我就已經很習慣跟這種爸媽也是
632 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:27,770 說專業知識到底在乾嘛
633 00:20:27,780 --> 00:20:30,400 老媽能解對老嫗這樣子
634 00:20:30,410 --> 00:20:31,380 他不老嗎
635 00:20:31,390 --> 00:20:34,530 老遇到意思更老中文行不行
636 00:20:34,540 --> 00:20:36,020 對
637 00:20:36,030 --> 00:20:38,670 然後所以我就跟他們說這件事
638 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,960 其實後來發現不止喜歡跟爸媽說
639 00:20:41,970 --> 00:20:44,940 我也喜歡跟身邊的就是商學院
640 00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:47,480 管理學院拿的朋友就不是理工
641 00:20:47,490 --> 00:20:48,860 背景的人說
642 00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:51,160 那就是電腦到底怎麼做的這樣
643 00:20:51,170 --> 00:20:53,280 所以其實不只是區塊鏈
644 00:20:53,290 --> 00:20:55,940 你其實從以前就有去跟別人白話
645 00:20:55,950 --> 00:20:56,960 解釋你在乾嘛
646 00:20:56,970 --> 00:20:57,080 對
647 00:20:57,090 --> 00:20:59,000 我覺得還蠻喜歡做這件事
648 00:20:59,010 --> 00:21:01,700 所以你後來又回去跟老媽解釋那
649 00:21:01,710 --> 00:21:04,220 一台區塊鏈礦機嗎
650 00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:06,160 礦機就跳過
651 00:21:06,170 --> 00:21:07,380 對
652 00:21:07,630 --> 00:21:10,480 但我跟他講中本聰的論文有跟他
653 00:21:10,490 --> 00:21:11,690 說去快店怎麼運動
654 00:21:11,700 --> 00:21:15,150 然後我今年的紅包其實是用明恩
655 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:15,950 幣發給他們
656 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,750 真的假的
657 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,350 你是詐騙他們那時候就SU然後
658 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:22,500 所以就想說OK好紅包
659 00:21:22,510 --> 00:21:23,270 不知道包什麼
660 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,310 然後我知道發明恩幣很容易
661 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,010 40塊50塊台幣的智慧合約的
662 00:21:29,020 --> 00:21:30,100 手續費就可以了
663 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,920 那就一人發3600克明
664 00:21:31,930 --> 00:21:32,880 你發出去的時候
665 00:21:32,890 --> 00:21:34,940 你爸媽的表情是什麼
666 00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:35,240 沒有
667 00:21:35,250 --> 00:21:37,980 我就跟他說我想到一個很不錯的
668 00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:38,540 東西
669 00:21:38,550 --> 00:21:39,900 然後一個人來
670 00:21:39,910 --> 00:21:41,870 你們先安裝錢包
671 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,620 如果我已經覺得是超不孝
672 00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:46,160 然後就說愛著他
673 00:21:46,170 --> 00:21:48,870 他就問我說這名nb到能幹嘛
674 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,500 我說丟樂瑟丟了時候100顆養
675 00:21:51,510 --> 00:21:52,760 了29年
676 00:21:52,770 --> 00:21:54,000 現在要丟個了
677 00:21:54,010 --> 00:21:56,520 sir要叫我明恩
678 00:21:56,530 --> 00:21:57,680 有沒有搞錯
679 00:21:57,690 --> 00:22:01,130 然後所以就類似這樣就跟爸媽
680 00:22:01,140 --> 00:22:01,500 解釋
681 00:22:01,510 --> 00:22:03,410 我覺得這個東西比較容易理解
682 00:22:03,420 --> 00:22:05,690 因為你之前在跟她們說比特幣在
683 00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:06,030 乾嘛
684 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,750 他跟我說那不是股票嗎
685 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:08,000 知道吧
686 00:22:08,010 --> 00:22:09,230 你有沒有回去查一下
687 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,880 戀上記錄會不會錢包到現在還是
688 00:22:11,890 --> 00:22:13,320 3600個
689 00:22:13,330 --> 00:22:15,070 應該是現在他們沒有花
690 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,910 你都沒有他們到認識好嗎
691 00:22:16,910 --> 00:22:18,220 好啦
692 00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:21,080 明恩一直有一個蠻有趣的過程
693 00:22:21,090 --> 00:22:24,870 其實每個人接觸到區塊鏈科技都
694 00:22:24,970 --> 00:22:26,650 我覺得那個過程都挺有趣的
695 00:22:26,660 --> 00:22:28,390 像我是在起點大學
696 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,810 像你是被強制放入了礦機
697 00:22:32,090 --> 00:22:33,000 其實還有很多人
698 00:22:33,010 --> 00:22:34,550 我們在節目裡面都訪問過
699 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,960 大家接觸到的時間點都不一樣
700 00:22:37,300 --> 00:22:38,590 大家如果回想一下
701 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,750 你是什麼時候第1次接觸到網絡
702 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,390 你第1次接觸到電腦
703 00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:44,970 其實區塊鏈真的是一個這麼有趣
704 00:22:44,980 --> 00:22:46,920 而且這麼有潛力的東西
705 00:22:46,930 --> 00:22:49,370 也希望大家也許有些地方朋友是
706 00:22:49,380 --> 00:22:51,540 通過寶博朋友說第1次接觸到區
707 00:22:51,550 --> 00:22:52,020 塊鏈
708 00:22:52,030 --> 00:22:53,970 我不會把礦機放在你家
709 00:22:53,980 --> 00:22:55,180 大家不用緊張
710 00:22:55,340 --> 00:22:56,620 但是至少一個新的東西
711 00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:57,680 大家可以聽聽看
712 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,870 所以我們知道你那時候就開始對
713 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,780 去看科技或者技術或思維模式有
714 00:23:05,790 --> 00:23:06,400 興趣
715 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,160 什麼樣的機緣讓你決定選擇用
716 00:23:09,170 --> 00:23:09,810 Podcast
717 00:23:09,820 --> 00:23:11,310 你乾嘛不直接作 YouTuber?
718 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,230 你顏值也不錯
719 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,280 對不對
720 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,870 又會講話又會寫
721 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,250 對
722 00:23:16,260 --> 00:23:18,190 那時候先會寫文章
723 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,890 然後後來就想說
724 00:23:20,130 --> 00:23:22,590 就有很多的公司他們會發現說你
725 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,140 有的寫文章
726 00:23:23,150 --> 00:23:25,350 你可以幫我們葉配配對
727 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:27,580 就是你可不可以偷偷植入
728 00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:30,070 因為喜很多都沒有人遭業費
729 00:23:30,140 --> 00:23:33,160 然後我就說但是我們付費的內容
730 00:23:33,170 --> 00:23:34,730 我只收會員的錢
731 00:23:34,740 --> 00:23:36,810 然後所以我就保證不會也配
732 00:23:36,820 --> 00:23:39,320 所以頂多我們吃飯聊聊天
733 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,590 後來就突然搶道
734 00:23:41,250 --> 00:23:43,600 可以把我們聊天的內容中間放個
735 00:23:43,610 --> 00:23:44,390 麥克風
736 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,800 所以不葉配的是文章
737 00:23:47,910 --> 00:23:50,330 然後怕case就可以葉配也
738 00:23:50,340 --> 00:23:52,270 然後其實現在他開始也沒有液
739 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,140 配對
740 00:23:53,150 --> 00:23:55,630 然後就只是說大家去找他聊聊天
741 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,690 寫了幾集之後開始做park
742 00:23:58,700 --> 00:23:59,860 自己還記得嗎
743 00:23:59,860 --> 00:24:02,410 大概快要280 200篇
744 00:24:02,420 --> 00:24:03,570 對快要200篇
745 00:24:03,570 --> 00:24:06,800 前面一年的產量比較多一點
746 00:24:06,810 --> 00:24:08,380 一個禮拜有時候三篇
747 00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:11,340 有時候到多的時候到我印象非常
748 00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:11,940 深刻
749 00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:14,130 就是我自己也寫文章
750 00:24:14,140 --> 00:24:15,860 但我是三五個月寫一篇
751 00:24:15,870 --> 00:24:17,700 然後那時候看你這樣一個禮拜寫
752 00:24:17,710 --> 00:24:18,320 兩三篇
753 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,200 我覺得腦漿真的會乾掉
754 00:24:21,210 --> 00:24:24,700 真的會完全是一種馬拉松式的
755 00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:25,920 寫作方法
756 00:24:25,930 --> 00:24:26,100 對
757 00:24:26,110 --> 00:24:27,980 我覺得真的還蠻累的
758 00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:31,320 然後所以我通常寫完的當下
759 00:24:31,330 --> 00:24:33,640 我就要癱在床上一整天的
760 00:24:33,650 --> 00:24:35,510 划算嗎
761 00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:36,450 我能不能問
762 00:24:36,460 --> 00:24:38,810 就是說到那個時候200多篇
763 00:24:38,820 --> 00:24:41,530 然後付費訂閱的人數就一個
764 00:24:41,540 --> 00:24:44,200 你給我一個認去叫破千破百或者
765 00:24:44,210 --> 00:24:46,410 是破付費訂閱的人
766 00:24:46,420 --> 00:24:49,200 其實一直都不到1000區塊鏈
767 00:24:49,210 --> 00:24:51,670 領域他真的願意
768 00:24:51,670 --> 00:24:52,640 有興趣的人
769 00:24:52,650 --> 00:24:55,400 其實很多流免費訂閱的到現在
770 00:24:55,410 --> 00:24:56,470 非常多
771 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,560 到現在還是1000
772 00:24:57,570 --> 00:24:58,420 現在到現在不到1000
773 00:24:58,430 --> 00:25:01,940 科技導讀他們我其實不知道他們
774 00:25:01,950 --> 00:25:02,540 明確的數字
775 00:25:02,550 --> 00:25:04,970 但是他們應該是之前就說他們破
776 00:25:04,980 --> 00:25:05,490 千了
777 00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:06,440 對
778 00:25:06,450 --> 00:25:09,470 所以因為他的領域很要讀
779 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,550 因為區塊鏈算是科技領域的一個
780 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,010 集合
781 00:25:12,020 --> 00:25:12,810 對
782 00:25:12,820 --> 00:25:16,210 但是這兩個領域我看起來就是說
783 00:25:16,430 --> 00:25:18,820 去快店想要知道的人其實蠻多的
784 00:25:18,830 --> 00:25:21,490 所以我們收到非常多的免費的
785 00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:22,310 訂閱EMAIL
786 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,020 就是幾千七八千
787 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,490 然後但是願意付費的人還沒有
788 00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:26,770 那麼多
789 00:25:26,780 --> 00:25:29,030 當然另外一部分大家可能沒有
790 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:29,970 那麼有興趣
791 00:25:29,980 --> 00:25:31,230 或者是我不是寫投資
792 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,410 如果我改成斜投資
793 00:25:32,420 --> 00:25:35,850 可能大家就覺得行投資會出事
794 00:25:35,860 --> 00:25:36,130 對
795 00:25:36,140 --> 00:25:38,280 所以而且其實我也不會投資
796 00:25:38,290 --> 00:25:40,270 我每每投資B失敗這樣的時候
797 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,850 因為你都沒有來問我沒有我也
798 00:25:43,860 --> 00:25:44,820 沒有比較厲害
799 00:25:44,830 --> 00:25:45,520 對
800 00:25:45,530 --> 00:25:49,810 所以你有沒有想過讓你的寫作
801 00:25:49,820 --> 00:25:52,210 內容或者是park跟企業有
802 00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:53,350 一個長期的關係
803 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:54,890 有點像安tab plus的
804 00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:56,810 訂購這種有想過嗎
805 00:25:56,810 --> 00:25:57,550 確實有
806 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,440 因為最近後來才慢慢的開始理清
807 00:26:00,450 --> 00:26:00,890 這件事情
808 00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:03,690 就是說其實所有的新的東西開始
809 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:06,240 都不會是一般大眾對這個東西有
810 00:26:06,250 --> 00:26:06,480 興趣
811 00:26:06,490 --> 00:26:08,060 因為區塊鏈這麼抽象
812 00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:09,560 反而一開始有興趣的其實都是
813 00:26:09,570 --> 00:26:10,200 企業
814 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,150 其實我現在有很多訂閱者都是
815 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:12,830 那些
816 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,470 可是他定一個月這樣子
817 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,310 幾百然後幾百塊而已
818 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,480 然後有的企業他可能是用命
819 00:26:18,490 --> 00:26:21,660 然後什麼東西我傳到了企業內部
820 00:26:21,670 --> 00:26:22,150 平台
821 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,100 其實這樣我真是沒有辦法
822 00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:28,650 我鼓勵大家就是說一個人用一個
823 00:26:28,660 --> 00:26:30,050 因為才200多塊而已
824 00:26:30,060 --> 00:26:30,470 不要這樣
825 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:30,720 對
826 00:26:30,730 --> 00:26:32,650 應該有一個幫豆對不對
827 00:26:32,650 --> 00:26:34,990 可能多少人聽這樣
828 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,950 現在其實有企業定沒錯
829 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,500 但是也不是很美
830 00:26:40,510 --> 00:26:42,500 每間企業都願意做這件事情
831 00:26:42,510 --> 00:26:44,110 你說大家定天下雜誌
832 00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:45,590 大家會覺得OK
833 00:26:45,660 --> 00:26:48,250 但是你說定區塊是大家就覺得這
834 00:26:48,260 --> 00:26:49,080 是什麼東西
835 00:26:49,090 --> 00:26:50,950 目前還沒有真正那麼苦
836 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,030 可能也在想
837 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,770 但是吃得飽就對了啦
838 00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:54,720 吃得飽OK OK
839 00:26:54,730 --> 00:26:57,520 所以其實跟之前的工程師的收入
840 00:26:57,530 --> 00:26:58,570 其實差不多的這樣
841 00:26:58,570 --> 00:26:59,550 很不錯
842 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,810 我覺得OK沒有那麼淒涼
843 00:27:01,820 --> 00:27:03,970 但是台灣的工程師收入太低了
844 00:27:03,980 --> 00:27:06,810 也是你不能跟台灣工程師比
845 00:27:06,820 --> 00:27:07,520 也是
846 00:27:07,530 --> 00:27:10,670 然後但是就沒有辦法做太長期的
847 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,170 規劃
848 00:27:11,180 --> 00:27:12,550 我覺得這其實是我自己
849 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,910 目前我倒不太介意說我沒有那種
850 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,350 發大財的夢
851 00:27:16,350 --> 00:27:19,460 但是我是覺得如果我有更多的
852 00:27:19,470 --> 00:27:19,740 資源
853 00:27:19,750 --> 00:27:20,920 更多的人來訂閱的話
854 00:27:20,930 --> 00:27:23,280 我可以說我們接下來三個月我們
855 00:27:23,290 --> 00:27:26,510 要怎麼讓大家體驗多一點或者
856 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,060 怎麼樣
857 00:27:27,070 --> 00:27:29,710 這是有更多資源可以做
858 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,690 更多的是這樣
859 00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:32,370 其實聽眾朋友聽到這邊應該就
860 00:27:32,380 --> 00:27:32,610 知道
861 00:27:32,620 --> 00:27:36,750 你們正在見證歷史上台灣區塊鏈
862 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,590 歷史上很重要的一課
863 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,740 因為以前好像只有區塊是一個
864 00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:45,940 這種怕case的為主的區塊鏈
865 00:27:45,950 --> 00:27:49,770 媒體應該是我沒有漏掉誰是然後
866 00:27:49,780 --> 00:27:52,610 寶博士我不算專門做區塊鏈
867 00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:54,910 因為我節目叫做寶博朋友說我
868 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,620 什麼都聊
869 00:27:55,630 --> 00:27:59,180 只不過我還是比較熱切的想要多
870 00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:59,950 聊點區塊鏈
871 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,960 所以這是牛也會的區塊鏈系列
872 00:28:02,970 --> 00:28:05,900 我想說你的朋友都去快店領域
873 00:28:05,910 --> 00:28:06,410 沒有
874 00:28:06,420 --> 00:28:08,470 我也是人好嗎
875 00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:09,800 我是正常人
876 00:28:09,810 --> 00:28:10,470 OK
877 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,950 我有很多朋友
878 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,430 但是我們今天這個行為
879 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,620 這算是一種第1次兩個區塊鏈的
880 00:28:17,630 --> 00:28:18,390 內容
881 00:28:18,450 --> 00:28:19,830 的創作者
882 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,530 然後有一個這樣交談的機會
883 00:28:22,540 --> 00:28:23,570 很好
884 00:28:23,790 --> 00:28:25,860 另外一個重點就是互稱一下
885 00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:28,330 互稱一下粉這樣
886 00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:30,090 所以請寶博朋友說
887 00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:34,130 千萬聽眾朋友千萬記得上網
888 00:28:34,140 --> 00:28:36,230 Google一下區塊是趨勢的
889 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,830 是區塊我就不用講了
890 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,440 區域就是區域的區好吧
891 00:28:39,450 --> 00:28:43,160 一塊兩塊的塊區塊是我自己有
892 00:28:43,170 --> 00:28:44,180 訂閱了
893 00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:44,780 付費不知道
894 00:28:44,790 --> 00:28:45,780 沒有停掉
895 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,820 但是真的很不錯
896 00:28:48,830 --> 00:28:53,000 他是真的用人生在用生命在推廣
897 00:28:53,010 --> 00:28:53,490 科技
898 00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:55,010 或者是趙老高的講法
899 00:28:55,020 --> 00:28:55,850 就是思維
900 00:28:55,850 --> 00:28:57,200 其實真的非常不錯
901 00:28:57,210 --> 00:28:59,480 所以你也要記得在你的節目裡面
902 00:28:59,490 --> 00:29:01,430 是就推薦一下
903 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,420 我覺得一開始只有我一個人做
904 00:29:04,430 --> 00:29:05,740 你們一塊錢穆對
905 00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:08,160 就覺得天哪這領域怎麼會沒有人
906 00:29:08,170 --> 00:29:10,870 大家都其實蠻多人會去上傳到U
907 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,590 Q但是我自己看了幾次
908 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,900 又去之後就會發現說
909 00:29:13,910 --> 00:29:16,300 因為就是一個很娛樂的地方
910 00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:17,520 我想休息
911 00:29:17,530 --> 00:29:19,060 結果你跟我講是區塊鏈
912 00:29:19,070 --> 00:29:20,030 我不想聽
913 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,000 對大家崩潰
914 00:29:21,010 --> 00:29:25,080 我在商岸上面收聽率都還不錯
915 00:29:25,090 --> 00:29:27,310 幾千幾萬這樣子亂講
916 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,110 但是比U就幾千萬
917 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,590 在I報給了
918 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,140 然後但又T我現在傳了幾集
919 00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:37,390 大家也意興闌珊
920 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,230 但我不管
921 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,240 反正我就繼續做
922 00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:41,810 而且有錄影對不對
923 00:29:41,820 --> 00:29:43,130 我來賓都那麼帥
924 00:29:43,130 --> 00:29:44,890 這次有錄影成功的話
925 00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:46,240 之後大家可以看到影像
926 00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:47,140 好啦
927 00:29:47,150 --> 00:29:51,850 所以總而言之區塊是聽說去美國
928 00:29:51,860 --> 00:29:52,660 壯游
929 00:29:52,670 --> 00:29:54,300 然後就要休息一陣子
930 00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:57,250 是對中間這一個月拉2019年
931 00:29:57,260 --> 00:29:58,220 12月的時候
932 00:29:58,230 --> 00:30:00,670 因為我一部分是辦網站
933 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,230 我把網站搬到另外一個平台去
934 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,670 另外一個是想說
935 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,420 因為其實你剛說的一個禮拜寫兩
936 00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:10,150 三篇文章
937 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,530 這其實是比較累的
938 00:30:11,540 --> 00:30:14,200 我覺得那個會造成你的人生的
939 00:30:14,210 --> 00:30:15,480 永久性創傷
940 00:30:15,490 --> 00:30:16,740 這不是蓋的
941 00:30:16,750 --> 00:30:19,100 大家真的是看你你要寫一篇
942 00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:20,260 言之有物的文章
943 00:30:20,270 --> 00:30:21,560 一個禮拜寫三篇
944 00:30:21,570 --> 00:30:23,180 真的是動彈不得
945 00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:26,920 然後所以我就想說天要休息
946 00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:29,800 休息是為了走更長遠的路
947 00:30:29,810 --> 00:30:31,820 就某種程度最近我一直在想這件
948 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:31,960 事
949 00:30:31,970 --> 00:30:32,940 對休息一下
950 00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:34,740 然後所以我才能夠繼續下去
951 00:30:34,750 --> 00:30:37,560 但是我其實還蠻享受這種一直寫
952 00:30:37,570 --> 00:30:40,290 每次寫我就在寫過程中有一點
953 00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:41,530 學到新的東西
954 00:30:41,540 --> 00:30:42,610 這種速度感
955 00:30:42,610 --> 00:30:42,880 對
956 00:30:42,890 --> 00:30:44,160 我還蠻喜歡這種速度感的
957 00:30:44,170 --> 00:30:47,610 所以就希望說能夠繼續下去
958 00:30:47,620 --> 00:30:47,930 對
959 00:30:47,940 --> 00:30:48,750 所以中間要休息
960 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,010 所以現在是一個休息
961 00:30:50,020 --> 00:30:51,990 然後是只休息10天嗎
962 00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:55,190 還是你好像有公告說一個月月亮
963 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,110 休息一個月
964 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,410 但是去美國然後就回台灣應該是
965 00:30:58,420 --> 00:30:58,870 就去
966 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,350 然後去完之後就回來了
967 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,230 東海美西去舊金山跟洛杉磯第
968 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:04,610 1次去
969 00:31:04,620 --> 00:31:05,940 對我第1次去美國
970 00:31:06,190 --> 00:31:08,120 你上去都還算晚了
971 00:31:08,130 --> 00:31:08,690 對不對
972 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:09,670 對我覺得是
973 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,930 因為我就看很多朋友都已經有
974 00:31:11,940 --> 00:31:13,780 去過美國很多不同的地方
975 00:31:13,790 --> 00:31:16,260 然後但是我自己覺得有點慚愧的
976 00:31:16,270 --> 00:31:18,980 地方在於我很早就開始接觸
977 00:31:18,990 --> 00:31:21,160 從電機系開始就開始看科技
978 00:31:21,170 --> 00:31:23,830 但是我從來沒有去過溪谷
979 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:24,460 對
980 00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:28,630 然後從以前那種很講究細的細古
981 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,750 到現在很網路的戲骨
982 00:31:30,820 --> 00:31:31,640 從來都沒有去過
983 00:31:31,650 --> 00:31:34,420 所以想說這次去就在臉書上找
984 00:31:34,430 --> 00:31:35,100 一個朋友
985 00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:37,120 在蘋果在Google在臉書
986 00:31:37,130 --> 00:31:37,580 工作
987 00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:40,170 然後對寫文章有個好處
988 00:31:40,180 --> 00:31:42,070 因為會認識很多這些人
989 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,090 對我其實這次這樣來的
990 00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:48,550 其實我知道我的聽話朋友不一定
991 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,970 年齡層是怎麼樣
992 00:31:49,980 --> 00:31:51,890 如果你是比較年輕的
993 00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:54,390 我是真的很鼓勵你在20歲左右
994 00:31:54,660 --> 00:31:56,410 存一點錢打個工去
995 00:31:56,420 --> 00:31:57,940 美國機票沒多少錢
996 00:31:57,950 --> 00:31:58,800 3 35000
997 00:31:58,810 --> 00:32:01,060 貴的便宜的25000再便宜
998 00:32:01,070 --> 00:32:01,340 一點
999 00:32:01,350 --> 00:32:02,000 特價
1000 00:32:02,130 --> 00:32:03,060 對不對
1001 00:32:03,070 --> 00:32:04,080 一共有15000
1002 00:32:04,090 --> 00:32:05,600 你買15000是吧
1003 00:32:05,610 --> 00:32:08,500 哪一件航空公司想法
1004 00:32:08,910 --> 00:32:11,320 因為我比較喜歡倉容
1005 00:32:11,790 --> 00:32:13,020 鑫宇航空也不錯
1006 00:32:13,030 --> 00:32:14,030 但還沒有飛美國
1007 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,950 所以真的是我覺得以成本
1008 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,330 cost來講真的是還好了
1009 00:32:19,340 --> 00:32:21,760 然後你考取C是不是你好像很
1010 00:32:21,770 --> 00:32:24,050 喜歡去住人家家沙發
1011 00:32:24,060 --> 00:32:24,550 對
1012 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,450 我最近幾年很喜歡沙發重郎
1013 00:32:27,530 --> 00:32:27,660 對
1014 00:32:27,670 --> 00:32:29,350 然後去那邊
1015 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,150 然後跟不拍行程
1016 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:31,950 因為我懶得拍行
1017 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,910 我也沒時間拍行程
1018 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:33,280 我就去
1019 00:32:33,290 --> 00:32:35,490 然後他們就會說我們帶你去那邊
1020 00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:36,290 吃東西
1021 00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:37,740 成本不會很高
1022 00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:40,330 我覺得兩三萬塊打死了10天
1023 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,690 然後我覺得真的是開眼界
1024 00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:45,890 我覺得天後如果你是年齡層再長
1025 00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:46,400 一點的
1026 00:32:46,410 --> 00:32:47,420 我覺得也是一樣
1027 00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:49,990 如果你一直有個地方很想去
1028 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,610 尤其是像美國
1029 00:32:51,620 --> 00:32:52,420 我覺得大家好
1030 00:32:52,430 --> 00:32:55,720 現在看新聞看我們的知識提升
1031 00:32:55,730 --> 00:32:55,880 以後
1032 00:32:55,890 --> 00:32:58,500 我們發現其實很多我們對事物的
1033 00:32:58,510 --> 00:33:00,540 認知是被包裝出來的
1034 00:33:00,730 --> 00:33:01,880 像我第1次去美國
1035 00:33:01,890 --> 00:33:05,220 我就超級下call去下K就是
1036 00:33:05,230 --> 00:33:07,400 什麼美國怎麼跟好萊塢電影裡面
1037 00:33:07,410 --> 00:33:08,520 演的完全不一樣
1038 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,350 當然有些經驗我們下次早一起在
1039 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:11,790 聊
1040 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,610 但是我一直覺得早一點
1041 00:33:14,620 --> 00:33:16,310 尤其我們這個時代早一點
1042 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,850 佔住台灣去看更大的地方
1043 00:33:18,860 --> 00:33:20,270 我覺得這一點真的很重要
1044 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,390 而且我有一些很好的很優秀的
1045 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,210 創業家朋友
1046 00:33:24,220 --> 00:33:25,770 他們現在公司都幾十億的
1047 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,970 他們都很多都是那種20歲自己
1048 00:33:27,980 --> 00:33:28,480 存錢
1049 00:33:28,490 --> 00:33:30,560 一個人殺到溪谷去
1050 00:33:30,740 --> 00:33:31,920 而他也不知道找誰
1051 00:33:31,930 --> 00:33:34,050 他就是要去聞那裡的空氣
1052 00:33:34,060 --> 00:33:35,550 去看那裡的紅綠燈
1053 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,860 去感受那裡的感覺
1054 00:33:38,050 --> 00:33:39,260 我那時候聽到的時候
1055 00:33:39,270 --> 00:33:40,580 我已經快40歲
1056 00:33:41,170 --> 00:33:42,260 我覺得很後悔
1057 00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:44,700 我怎麼20歲之後沒做這件事情
1058 00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:45,320 對不對
1059 00:33:45,330 --> 00:33:46,840 你像29歲去差不多
1060 00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:47,360 對
1061 00:33:47,370 --> 00:33:50,280 我這次去最大目的就是去那邊過
1062 00:33:50,290 --> 00:33:51,760 他們的聖誕節這樣過
1063 00:33:51,770 --> 00:33:52,680 對
1064 00:33:52,690 --> 00:33:54,640 為什麼48~28
1065 00:33:54,650 --> 00:33:55,690 然後中間25
1066 00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:58,330 然後中間會做一些影像記錄嗎
1067 00:33:58,340 --> 00:33:59,720 直播有
1068 00:33:59,730 --> 00:34:02,640 我考慮帶park去找那邊的人
1069 00:34:02,650 --> 00:34:03,020 錄音
1070 00:34:03,030 --> 00:34:06,130 這樣就找就像OK
1071 00:34:06,140 --> 00:34:06,700 總而言之
1072 00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:08,170 我們今天節目有點長
1073 00:34:08,180 --> 00:34:09,530 其實聊得很開心
1074 00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:11,930 講到區塊鏈
1075 00:34:11,940 --> 00:34:14,250 台灣幾個媒體動區
1076 00:34:14,260 --> 00:34:15,710 然後不大case
1077 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:19,730 然後區塊也是其中一個大家很常
1078 00:34:19,740 --> 00:34:20,510 提到的
1079 00:34:20,740 --> 00:34:22,730 然後我其實只是一個粉絲
1080 00:34:22,740 --> 00:34:25,510 我也沒有真的要弄什麼區塊鏈
1081 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,740 專業媒體太累了
1082 00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:28,160 膠給你弄就好了
1083 00:34:28,450 --> 00:34:30,190 但是也覺得機會難得
1084 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,390 然後我們兩個都在錄park
1085 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,290 然後你算前輩你錄幾集了
1086 00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:37,390 我現在大概快50
1087 00:34:37,620 --> 00:34:38,290 快50級
1088 00:34:38,300 --> 00:34:40,000 我現在才第12
1089 00:34:40,010 --> 00:34:41,820 因為其實我第1集就是找寶博士
1090 00:34:41,830 --> 00:34:43,180 來對吧
1091 00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:47,340 我第1集就覺得天哪要找一個我
1092 00:34:47,350 --> 00:34:48,090 跟你講
1093 00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:50,780 我常常去參加活動
1094 00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:52,180 然後講區塊鏈的時候
1095 00:34:52,190 --> 00:34:53,140 他說寶博士
1096 00:34:53,150 --> 00:34:56,020 我記得你我在那個區塊是畫面的
1097 00:34:56,030 --> 00:34:57,220 聽到我跟你講
1098 00:34:57,230 --> 00:35:00,120 現在很多人都對我的認定
1099 00:35:00,130 --> 00:35:03,400 就叫做上第1級區塊是的寶博士
1100 00:35:03,410 --> 00:35:04,170 你知道嗎
1101 00:35:04,180 --> 00:35:05,050 對
1102 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:05,830 對
1103 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,200 所以大家可以趁明恩休假一個月
1104 00:35:10,210 --> 00:35:10,700 的時候
1105 00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:12,300 趁這個月可以補足
1106 00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:13,920 你應該寫一篇文章
1107 00:35:13,930 --> 00:35:18,210 如果要趁這一個月追完之前所有
1108 00:35:18,220 --> 00:35:21,140 奇數的幾個重點的記憶好不好
1109 00:35:21,150 --> 00:35:22,880 整理一個整理一下
1110 00:35:22,890 --> 00:35:24,250 我覺得你的粉絲也會想聽
1111 00:35:24,260 --> 00:35:27,390 然後像寶博朋友說千萬粉絲對
1112 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:27,570 不對
1113 00:35:27,580 --> 00:35:30,480 大家也會想要看有沒有哪幾級最
1114 00:35:30,490 --> 00:35:32,500 重要的金華區
1115 00:35:32,510 --> 00:35:35,440 最後我們通常都會問一個通用的
1116 00:35:35,450 --> 00:35:36,190 問題
1117 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,990 你覺得未來世界會是什麼樣子
1118 00:35:40,060 --> 00:35:41,340 可以有關
1119 00:35:41,350 --> 00:35:42,730 可以跟區塊鏈沒有關係
1120 00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:44,450 跟區塊鏈有關
1121 00:35:44,460 --> 00:35:45,180 跟區外沒關
1122 00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:47,680 我現在腦袋裡面好像只裝區塊鏈
1123 00:35:47,690 --> 00:35:47,960 登
1124 00:35:47,970 --> 00:35:48,200 對
1125 00:35:48,210 --> 00:35:50,120 那就根據案有關好了
1126 00:35:50,130 --> 00:35:52,330 但是感覺好像回答出來也會根據
1127 00:35:52,340 --> 00:35:52,840 快遞沒關
1128 00:35:52,850 --> 00:35:57,100 我先用是非體來引導
1129 00:35:57,110 --> 00:35:57,670 你
1130 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,800 覺得你還是看好區塊鏈
1131 00:35:59,810 --> 00:36:01,460 我看好你
1132 00:36:01,470 --> 00:36:04,110 剛前面說我用生命在賭這個人
1133 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,400 反正我這種我執牙來讀未必用
1134 00:36:06,410 --> 00:36:06,730 生命
1135 00:36:06,740 --> 00:36:09,540 但是其實是我只有看好他
1136 00:36:09,550 --> 00:36:11,820 我才要繼續花時間在這筆
1137 00:36:11,830 --> 00:36:13,990 我現在就全職在研究這個東西
1138 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,120 如果我就覺得他是個詐騙
1139 00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:19,650 我乾嘛花時間在詐騙上面
1140 00:36:19,660 --> 00:36:22,230 但是你的那位礦機朋友就撤退
1141 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:23,750 他就跑去當醫生
1142 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,860 你有沒有問他
1143 00:36:25,870 --> 00:36:27,130 他現在有在看
1144 00:36:27,140 --> 00:36:30,030 但是他現在就不是挖礦的司機
1145 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,140 他現在沒有套利的空間了
1146 00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:34,710 他喜歡短期的快感
1147 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:37,750 但是所以你長期還是看好你看見
1148 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,730 的區塊鏈的未來長什麼樣
1149 00:36:39,740 --> 00:36:41,990 我覺得現在看起來好像是這樣
1150 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,470 現在大家會覺得因為只要數位化
1151 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,150 越多
1152 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,250 就是我們的的生活日常生活
1153 00:36:48,260 --> 00:36:49,430 越來越數位化
1154 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,060 那去快點他就越來越重要
1155 00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:52,940 我目前的心得
1156 00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:56,240 但是如果我們的生活都還是實體
1157 00:36:56,250 --> 00:36:56,690 的世界
1158 00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:58,980 比如說我們很多紙本作業等等
1159 00:36:58,990 --> 00:36:59,290 東西
1160 00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:01,490 這種時候就還看不出來它的
1161 00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:01,930 重要性
1162 00:37:01,940 --> 00:37:03,630 大家就覺得紙本作業做得還不錯
1163 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,250 但是當你有很多的數位東西要做
1164 00:37:07,260 --> 00:37:07,460 的時候
1165 00:37:07,470 --> 00:37:10,290 你就會發現說卡住
1166 00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:11,660 然後要花很多時間
1167 00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:14,630 最明顯的例子就是銀行轉錢到
1168 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,160 美國去
1169 00:37:15,170 --> 00:37:17,130 可能假設如果要花兩天的時間
1170 00:37:17,140 --> 00:37:19,900 不如我現在帶著一筆錢搭飛機搭
1171 00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:21,270 華航去15000
1172 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,510 然後就可以的
1173 00:37:22,510 --> 00:37:27,190 所以我覺得這就是我們目前看到
1174 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,460 的數位化的卡關的地方
1175 00:37:29,470 --> 00:37:32,380 但是如果你不是站在比較遠的
1176 00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:32,910 地方
1177 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,360 就是站在比較未來的角度會來看
1178 00:37:35,370 --> 00:37:35,600 的話
1179 00:37:35,610 --> 00:37:37,830 你就會覺得現在生活也還不錯
1180 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,510 為什麼要用一個區塊鏈
1181 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,550 我覺得很多人都是這樣
1182 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,450 對
1183 00:37:42,460 --> 00:37:44,720 但是如果你會發現說現在其實
1184 00:37:44,730 --> 00:37:46,610 好像可以變得更好
1185 00:37:46,620 --> 00:37:48,350 為什麼我現在從台灣轉到美國
1186 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,530 就要花好幾個小時
1187 00:37:49,540 --> 00:37:51,810 而我現在穿Y給美國朋友
1188 00:37:51,820 --> 00:37:53,250 他就是下一秒就收到了
1189 00:37:53,460 --> 00:37:54,100 沒有道理
1190 00:37:54,110 --> 00:37:56,960 所以理論上他們應該是同樣快的
1191 00:37:57,150 --> 00:37:59,900 所以這中間就會有可以改進的
1192 00:37:59,910 --> 00:38:00,320 地方
1193 00:38:00,330 --> 00:38:02,600 我覺得這是一種方式
1194 00:38:02,610 --> 00:38:04,400 但是可能有很多不同的方式
1195 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,870 我覺得區塊鏈目前是大家討論
1196 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,760 比較多的一個
1197 00:38:07,770 --> 00:38:10,740 其實我覺得這個切入點很不錯
1198 00:38:10,750 --> 00:38:14,100 就是說你一起去看區塊鏈的技術
1199 00:38:14,110 --> 00:38:16,890 然後或者是它的產業發展來推測
1200 00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:18,170 這是一種做法
1201 00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:20,650 另外一種做法是你從它的本質
1202 00:38:20,660 --> 00:38:21,650 我一直在講
1203 00:38:21,660 --> 00:38:24,740 就說區塊鏈它其實是一個現代
1204 00:38:24,750 --> 00:38:26,100 網絡的升級
1205 00:38:26,110 --> 00:38:27,840 它是一個plate
1206 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,340 如果未來我們很多生活的層面跟
1207 00:38:31,350 --> 00:38:35,680 虛擬世界跟數位的世界息息相關
1208 00:38:35,690 --> 00:38:38,900 而且變得越來越不可分割的時候
1209 00:38:39,220 --> 00:38:41,530 這個網絡一定不會一直是他本來
1210 00:38:41,540 --> 00:38:42,050 的樣子
1211 00:38:42,060 --> 00:38:42,620 對不對
1212 00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:44,280 就有點像以前我們有馬路
1213 00:38:44,290 --> 00:38:46,000 後來我們有鐵路網
1214 00:38:46,010 --> 00:38:47,260 還有高速鐵路
1215 00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:47,740 對不對
1216 00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:50,500 網絡它一定也會升級
1217 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,930 本來就有網絡變成區塊鏈網路
1218 00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:54,560 然後之後還有高速區塊鏈
1219 00:38:54,570 --> 00:38:55,000 網路
1220 00:38:55,010 --> 00:38:55,420 對不對
1221 00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:58,090 如果這個趨勢不變
1222 00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:00,420 你如果發現我們越來越多生活
1223 00:39:00,430 --> 00:39:01,780 層面到這裡來了
1224 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,810 大家看到最近有新聞嗎
1225 00:39:03,820 --> 00:39:05,570 李嘉誠靠什麼AA
1226 00:39:05,580 --> 00:39:07,130 什麼數位平台
1227 00:39:07,140 --> 00:39:09,370 什麼8分鐘內可以拍一筆款項給
1228 00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:10,690 多少人之類的
1229 00:39:11,020 --> 00:39:13,510 大家其實也就可以去猜測說網絡
1230 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,340 一定會升級
1231 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,320 要阿布瑞網絡容不容易
1232 00:39:17,330 --> 00:39:18,490 其實很不容易
1233 00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:22,290 最近我們有個好朋友Q狗的歐耀
1234 00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:22,480 偉
1235 00:39:22,490 --> 00:39:23,510 他就寫一篇文章
1236 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,410 還有寫提到你要R卜睿網絡到P
1237 00:39:27,420 --> 00:39:29,380 to P就是所謂點對點的
1238 00:39:29,390 --> 00:39:30,780 整個世代的升級
1239 00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:34,410 牽涉到密碼學網路的底層
1240 00:39:34,420 --> 00:39:38,740 牽涉到很多使用者的習慣等等
1241 00:39:38,980 --> 00:39:41,110 這個升級勢必是非常不容易的
1242 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,710 但是以區塊鏈網絡這一個層次的
1243 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:45,240 升級
1244 00:39:45,250 --> 00:39:46,710 從網絡到區塊鏈網絡
1245 00:39:46,910 --> 00:39:49,080 還真的好像快要沈了
1246 00:39:49,090 --> 00:39:50,880 而且已經擋了10年
1247 00:39:50,890 --> 00:39:51,200 對不對
1248 00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:54,240 從20809到現在2019年
1249 00:39:54,430 --> 00:39:55,890 好像還沒有cry序
1250 00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:57,610 當然很多人在看笑話
1251 00:39:57,620 --> 00:40:00,440 等他快去就跟當年很多人看笑話
1252 00:40:00,450 --> 00:40:01,930 覺得鐵路會失敗
1253 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:02,970 是一樣的
1254 00:40:02,980 --> 00:40:03,250 對吧
1255 00:40:03,260 --> 00:40:05,620 在高鐵開通前幾年
1256 00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:07,390 大家會說大高鐵會出事
1257 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,610 衝出去這樣子對結果大隊
1258 00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:15,660 所以我覺得其實這是一種也不要
1259 00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:16,600 讓堵住了
1260 00:40:16,610 --> 00:40:18,270 我覺得就是一種觀察
1261 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,240 對我跟徐明來講
1262 00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:23,860 許明恩的付出是更多的台大畢業
1263 00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:24,660 碩士畢業
1264 00:40:24,670 --> 00:40:26,720 然後現在用生命在奉獻
1265 00:40:26,730 --> 00:40:28,580 在區塊鏈的推廣上
1266 00:40:28,590 --> 00:40:30,240 我是一邊教書
1267 00:40:30,250 --> 00:40:33,000 然後我也用這種比較另類的形式
1268 00:40:33,010 --> 00:40:35,650 跟大家聊一些新的科技娛樂話題
1269 00:40:35,660 --> 00:40:36,140 等等
1270 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,070 但是聽眾朋友的付出又更少了
1271 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,810 每個禮拜廳一級區塊是聽一集
1272 00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:43,310 寶博朋友說對不對
1273 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,430 一個禮拜就這樣一小時對不對
1274 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,790 很輕鬆的可以聽到一些有的沒得
1275 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,220 但同時也可能可以間接的聽到
1276 00:40:51,230 --> 00:40:53,020 一點跟區塊鏈有關的話題
1277 00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:56,470 希望都能夠對大家未來20年
1278 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,320 如果這個世界的網絡生的升級
1279 00:40:59,330 --> 00:41:01,600 變成區塊鏈網絡的時候
1280 00:41:01,610 --> 00:41:03,600 大家都可以更快的習慣更快的
1281 00:41:03,610 --> 00:41:04,780 進去這個世界
1282 00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:07,010 然後更擁有更好的競爭力
1283 00:41:07,020 --> 00:41:07,500 對吧
1284 00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:11,430 感謝大家收聽今天的寶博朋友說
1285 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,220 我是葛如鈞寶博士
1286 00:41:13,230 --> 00:41:15,860 今天非常開心有許明恩來到節目
1287 00:41:15,870 --> 00:41:18,780 如果你喜歡我的節目
1288 00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:21,760 請記得在聲浪上訂閱寶博朋友說
1289 00:41:21,770 --> 00:41:22,360 的節目
1290 00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:24,290 如果你是在其他平台聽到這個節目
1291 00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:24,830 例如 iTunes 或 Spotify 都有
1292 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,370 歡迎您給五星評價
1293 00:41:26,380 --> 00:41:28,710 按喜歡留言或者按下小鈴鐺追蹤
1294 00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:29,920 訂閱
1295 00:41:29,930 --> 00:41:32,370 我們下次
1296 00:41:32,380 --> 00:41:33,220 空中見
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